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[Stefano Mori]

On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Matt wrote:

> On Saturday, October 4, 2003, at 10:29 AM, Stefano Mori wrote:
>>
>> Guess I was using the word in a different sense.
>
> A wrong sense.

Ok, I accept the way you're using it is correct and better. That the 
words 'terrorism' and 'fundamentalism' are getting used so often 
together that they're becoming blurred, the way I was using it, is not 
just wrong, as you say, it's also damaging.

I'll change what I wrote earlier.

On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 11:54 PM, Stefano Mori wrote:

> On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 03:56 PM, Charles Bennett wrote:
>
>> They were promised that Islam was the one true religion and that it 
>> would dominate the world.   The fact that the "Great Satan" has a 
>> dominate role and that their societies are not the "preferred" way of 
>> life in the world is very upsetting to them to say the least.
>> [..]
>> We have reached the point where our very existence and success makes 
>> us an "Enemy of Islam".
>
> Yes, what "fundamentalist" means is that a person believes in One 
> Truth and that they, oh ever so conveniently, happen to have that 
> truth and everyone else is wrong. Our way is the only true way and 
> that's the end of the story.
>
> So *any* outsider is an enemy.

Scrap the word 'fundamentalist', and replace my blurb with:

Yes, the level of thinking that these people are doing only allows them 
to see that their own beliefs are the only true beliefs, and they 
identify with those beliefs very strongly. So the existence of anyone 
who holds different beliefs creates a conflict of ideas. If my beliefs 
are the right ones, then the other beliefs must be _wrong_, and those 
other people must be _wrong_ (people at this level identify 
*themselves* with the beliefs). And we always work to rid the world of 
wrong things, so anyone holding the wrong beliefs becomes an enemy.

> Didn't we just have an email regarding the misconceptions propagated 
> by the media?

I missed it?

>> Google: "fundamentalist islam terrorist" - 42,900 matches.
>
> Google: fundamental christian terrorist.  -  51,700 matches/

Google: fundamental terrorist - 109,000 matches.
Google : fundamental islam christian terrorist - 19,700 matches.

So let's see, 20k overlap, so that's 30k for Christians and 20k Islam. 
Wonder who the other 50k are?

Google: fundamentalist bush terrorist -christian -islam. - 19,400 
matches.

Uh, ok, Bush is 20k.

Which just leaves 30k miscellaneous.

DISCLAIMER: these figures for entertainment purposes only.

>>> "Stop killing each other"
>>> "Be nice to each other"
>>> "Love god"
>
> Both the Qu'ran and the Bible are very specific.

My God the change that would happen if people just practiced "Do not 
kill, period." No excuses, no reasons, no loop holes, no arguments.

Stefano