[Osx-nutters] AHMADINEJAD

[Kevin Callahan]

On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:33 PM, Patrick Coskren wrote:

> On Sep 21, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:
>
>> God told Bush to invade Iraq, what's your take on Bush ?
>
> (Not to hijack the response, but...) This is what scares the crap  
> out of me regarding this whole confrontation.  Bush and Ahmadinejad  
> both strike me as being cut from similar cloth.  Bush has an  
> incentive to go to war: the upcoming election and his legislative  
> agenda.  Ahmadinejad has an incentive to not back down on the  
> nuclear issue: he wants a deterrent against a far more powerful  
> enemy that's been highly belligerent lately and invaded the country  
> next door for absolutely no good reason.  And both of these idiots  
> are positive that God's on his side, so they're not afraid to roll  
> the dice.

indeed

let's add to the fact that A points out the B is currently embarking  
on new WMD programs -- and that others in the middle east have WMD  
programs

putting aside the obvious and frightening religious whackos here and  
there, as Clinton pointed out on Larry King last night, it doesn't  
take a genius to see the hypocrisy of the situation


>
>> On Sep 21, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Jeffrey Hergan wrote:
>>
>>> #3 His claim that his religion prevents him (or anyone) from  
>>> agression is ludicrous, from a man who has stated his desire to  
>>> see Israel annihilated.
>
> Just a minor quibble.  From what I've read, this was a simplistic  
> translation that evoked an English idiom that doesn't mean the same  
> thing in Persian.   He actually said that Israel would eventually  
> cease to exist, and that was a good thing.  This makes him an anti- 
> Semitic asshole, but doesn't necessarily imply he plans to attack  
> Israel himself.  In fact, I believe the context of the speech was  
> that Iran didn't *have* to do anything, because Israel was doomed  
> by the nature of the Middle East, or the "Will of God", or  
> something.  Emphasis on the "or something", because logical  
> coherence doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
>
> Not defending the guy, it's just that I hear this one a lot, and I  
> think there are plenty of *actual* things to criticize Ahmadinejad  
> for, without introducing new ones through bad translation and  
> hyperbolic news coverage.
>
> I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong on this point.

I think you're on to something



>
> -Patrick
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