[Osx-nutters] AHMADINEJAD

[Patrick Coskren]

On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:56 AM, Google Kreme wrote:

> On 27 Sep 2006, at 22:46 , Patrick Coskren wrote:
>> On Sep 28, 2006, at 12:26 AM, Google Kreme wrote:
>>> That's not what I said.  I said the US **IN IRAQ** is not better  
>>> than Saddam **IN IRAQ**.
>>
>> ... right... and then you added "has imported that brand of  
>> 'justice' to the US".
>
> Well, that's not even opinion.  That's simple fact.  Bush and his  
> Homeland Security has incarcerated many US citizen in violation of  
> the Constitution.  In fact, there was just a story about one guy  
> who'd been in custody for 3 years because his name was similar to  
> some al queda guy.  No charges were ever filed, but his green card  
> is being revoked and his American wife and American children will  
> likely never see him again.  He's spent years in jail, often  
> without communication with anyone (lawyer, family, etc) and all  
> because his name was sort like someone else's.

Yes.  Right.  I agree.  I just meant that I was bringing up the USA  
for p

>> For one thing, I believe that most of the soldiers on the ground  
>> are sincerely trying to make the place better;
>
> I'm sure most soldiers in teh Republican Guard were just trying to  
> defend their land.  And I bet most police in Bagdad were trying to  
> protect their citizens.  So what?  Most people, most of the time,  
> are trying to do the right thing.  That has nothing to do with the  
> policies of the US Government
>
>>> In fact, a very convincing case could be made that Iraq is far  
>>> far worse off now than it was in 2000.
>>
>> I think it's certainly worse off.  Torture is reportedly up, when  
>> you factor in the militias.
>
> Not to mention thousands of people (and, like under Saddam, largely  
> uncounted) killed in terrorist actions.  Terrorist WE imported to  
> Iraq.
>
>> Yup.  It's an important distinction, especially when the guys on  
>> the Right are constantly accusing us of forgetting it.  You don't  
>> persuade people by calling the President a terrorist, when he's  
>> "merely" staggeringly incompetent.
>
> Well, I think he's far worse than incompetent.  Malevolent. And  
> evil son of a bitch who I would not be surprised one bit to find a  
> cluster of 6's tattooed on his scalp.  Seriously, the man is a  
> horror film on legs.
>
>>> His administrations current ploy of trying to pin 9/11 on Clinton  
>>> is reprehensible.
>>
>> Absolutely.  And lying to do it, no less.
>
> Have they ever done anything BUT lie?
>
> -- 
> "Yes," said the skull. "Quit while you're a head, that's what I say."
>
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