[Osx-nutters] *Big* government

[David P. Henderson]

On 29 Aug 2007, at 18:29, Hex Star wrote:

> But how can the right message be spread to kids when these  
> corporations have such a high ad budget? They constantly have ads  
> on kid tv channels targeted directly at kids. Due to the high ad  
> budget while kids may get the positive message from one source that  
> message is soon overridden by the huge barrage of ads kids are  
> given by these corporations.
>
Um, The parents? But seriously this is a social issue one can neither  
legislate nor engineer a solution. The only real means of solving  
this particular problem is through education.

As an example (one with which I am intimately familiar), in 1954 the  
US Supreme Court ruled against the doctrine of Separate But Equal in  
Brown v. Board of Education. 10 years later most of the segregated  
school system were surprise still segregated or just plain shut down  
in defiance of the US Supreme Court and the Federal government. By  
1974, about when I started public school in Virginia most of the  
formerly segregated school systems were subject to forced busing  
schemes to "integrate" the schools. By 1984, about a year before I  
graduated from high school, our schools were still segregated despite  
having both colored and white students in the same school buildings.  
My point is that neither legislation (1954) nor engineering (busing)  
actually led to integration. From what I can tell having recently  
returned to school as an engineering student, only in the last 10 -  
15 years has integration of blacks and whites actually begun to  
occur. The inheritors of Post-Jim Crow both blacks and whites had to  
deal with a lot of anger on both sides (legitimate or not) over the  
manner in which desegregation occurred.

In 2004, I heard a radio interview on NPR (Talk of the Nation, I  
think) with one of the lawyers who represented the Browns. He said  
that looking back from 50 yrs that a better strategy would have been  
for the plaintiffs to seek real enforcement of separate but equal. In  
other words, the segregated schools systems should have been forced  
to actually provide equal funding, facilities, etc. With two possible  
results, a continuation of segregation but with real equality before  
the law or the white power structure voluntarily dismantling Jim Crow  
to ease the horrific financial burden Separate But Equal would have  
caused.

> > 2) Outlaw use of sweeteners such as corn syrup as well as
> > artificial ones such as aspartame
> >
> Corn syrup is everywhere because Congress heavily subsidizes the
> production of corn
>
> Then the Congress should stop that.
>
I agree and I write my Senators and Representative every year and  
with a list of issues on which they are failing to represent me.

>
> > 3) Outlaw use of artificial ingredients as a whole
> >
> Based on what? Arsenic is natural; should we consume it?
>
> Based on the current classification of artificial ingredients. They  
> should all be replaced by natural edible alternatives.
>
Every thing is chemicals and just because some occur naturally and  
some are man-made doesn't imply that one is better than the other.  
How free from contaminants are all arable lands? What's in the soil  
ends up in our food

>
> WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE ... WE ARE EATING AND FOOD CORPS NEED TO  
> STOP BEING PERMITTED TO USE HARMFUL INGREDIENTS!
>
I and many others are well aware but choose to eat these foods  
regardless. Just as I and many others choose to smoke knowing what a  
horrid nasty habit it was and I mostly smoked just to irritate the  
nannies. Quit being a nanny. I bet you don't even know the #1 cause  
of death.

Dave
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