[Osx-nutters] The separation of church and state.

[David Cake]

At 9:05 AM -0500 3/12/07, Charles Bennett wrote:
>On Nov 30, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
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>>On 30 Nov 2007, at 03:14, Matt Johnston wrote:
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>>>I admit there's a ruckuss in the media about creationism in Science
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>>>over in the US but that's just in backward areas right?
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>>Be afraid, be very afraid. Creationists are infiltrating schools in  
>>(at least) Denmark and Germany. There was a documentary from a  
>>reliable film maker on one of the most conservative channels here in  
>>Germany about this around 6 months ago.
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>>More recently, friends of ours reported that they were confronted with  
>>creationist school teachers at an open day at a *primary* school here  
>>in Berlin.
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>So..  Just to be clear.  Your friends object to a Creationist 
>teacher being in a school where Islam may taught?
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>WTF?  Over.
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>It is the German the courts that ORDERD the ok for the wee little 
>Islamists to received religious education IN the schools so I don't 
>see the problem with any particular invisible man getting 
>his/her/it's due in school.

	The problem with Creationists isn't that they teach 
Christianity. The problem is that they teach Christianity when they 
should be, and claim to be, teaching science. I don't have a problem 
with protestants, catholics, or muslims teaching their religion in 
time set aside for religious instruction (and clearly claimed as 
such), though obviously the atheists and satanists should be able to 
do the same.

>Folks are so worried about the US and our Fundies that they can't 
>see the nose on their faces.

	No, fundies are, indeed, the problem. Whatever religion they 
are fundamentalist followers of. Fundamentalist Christians and 
Fundamentalist Islam are manifestations of the same problem, 
attempting to take sides between them usually makes the problem worse.

	Do you really think that the existence of fundamentalist 
Islam means fundamentalist Christianity invading the science 
curriculum is unimportant by comparison?

	Cheers

		David