[Osx-nutters] The separation of church and state.

[Mark Smith]

On 04.12.2007, at 05:41, Chris Gehlker wrote:

> Try to find a falsifiable hypothesis that has actually been
> tested in the last 10 years from any of the other fields I mentioned.

If I had the time, or inclination, I'm sure I could deliver you 10,000  
Examples per day for a week.

Sorry Chris, but this is the kind of lazy baiting that really gets on  
my goat. Science is not a handful of bearded professors making earth- 
shaking observations. Its vast battalions of ants making small tests  
and observations.

Consider a single gene expression analysis experiment carried out  
according to currently popular methods. It makes 384 tests of a  
hypothesis alone. There are thousands of labs around the world running  
10s of these every single day.



> The  number of types of entities proposed to exist in the cosmos
> corresponds to the  number of bands of the electromagnetic spectrum
> that we have instruments to observe going back to Galileo.

Your point being ?



> *None* of the new things were hypothesized to exist before they were  
> observed
> except Pluto.

Not specifically, but it was hypothesised that further bodies existed  
and they were sought. Science. We can well remember that the churches  
were fundamentally against there being any seeking in the first place  
(because they knew themselves that their creation story was a pile of  
horse shit). The creationists have recognized that this approach to  
undermining science does not win enough friends so they are now trying  
the pseudo science approach and the very fact that people are  
questioning the validity of science, rather than the validity of  
things established by science, shows you that they are making progress.

Mark.