[Osx-nutters] The separation of church and state.

[Mark Smith]

On 05.12.2007, Chris Gehlker wrote:

/something like:

> you don't come across as having good persuasion skills

and you do ?

There isn't really any effort at persuading you on my part here and I  
hope, for your sake, that you are not doing your best to "persuade"  
me. You should choose your sources more carefully at the very least.

I consider myself to be competent (but not unusually so) in  
persuasion. Its always easy to tell at the outset in a debate, whether  
there is any scope for persuasion at all and which persons involved  
could be persuaded to some extent.

I've identified yourself as a lost cause in this regard. Stefano, who  
is far more "spiritually philosophical" than me (and I suspect  
yourself), seems to be more open to reason than you seem to be.  
(Despite his difficulties with mathematical modelling.)

Some people react extremely defensively to any debate that  
destabilizes religion.

Anyone who *doggedly* defends "belief", or more precisely "faith" as  
being compatible with scientific thought, is obviously not going to be  
trumped by mere facts.

They see themselves as being on a plain *above* the mere factual.

Mark.