[Osx-nutters] The separation of church and state.

[Mark Smith]

On 05.12.2007, at 15:36, Chris Gehlker wrote:

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> On Dec 5, 2007, at 4:38 AM, Mark Smith wrote:
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>>> If I am trying to persuade you of anything it is that your strategy
>>> of somehow 'excluding creationists from the table' sounds like a
>>> looser,
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>> See. That is not a strategy in terms of addressing the original
>> problem which, as I see it, is the creeping subversion of science
>> education by creationist (to use a somewhat paranoid term) agents.
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>> In as much as I have advocated a strategy against that, I have made
>> two points and they are admittedly not very enlightened (but I have
>> yet to hear anything better):
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>> 1. We need to prevent the infiltration of schools by these "agents"
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> What do you mean by "subversion" and "infiltration"? Do you mean that
> creationists are literally sneaking onto elementary campuses and
> unnoticed by the staff, whispering into the students ears? Do you mean
> that some teachers are secretly creationist and, unbeknownst to the
> administration or the school board are attempting to indoctrinate the
> children? Or do you simply mean that some creationist are exercising
> their rights to speak at public meetings and run for public office?
>
> The  first simply isn't happening.

Yes it is. I provided information about his at the outset. Obviously  
you weren't paying attention as usual.

End of this line for me.