[Osx-nutters] The separation of church and state.

[Stefano Mori]

On 2007-Dec-05, at 11:38, Mark Smith wrote:

>> Two strategies have been employed against them
>> effectively. One is David's of letting them present falsifiable
>> hypothesis and then falsifying them.
>
> Although this is the method that I default to normally and is the one
> that I would most like to see working, I haven't seen any evidence of
> it being "socially" successful in the creationist issue. The
> combination of freedom of speech laws, corrupt media and a largely
> ignorant public don't help in this particular case^[1]. This only
> reinforces the position of those who considered that it was bullshit
> in the first place. There is room for a view that this approach is
> (unfortunately) contra-productive on the whole and it opens the door
> (wider) for corruption in the halls of power.


It is a difficult problem and I agree, they are subversive agents.

I think sometimes a good pace to start with an issue is with telling  
them the truth. I'd ask a Creationist why they are bothering with all  
this science about dinosaurs, when their main concern is with God, and  
frankly it should be with God.

What's the obsession with proof of God in material base matter? Why do  
they want a science theory--even if they get their theory accepted,  
guess what, it's still just a theory--to help prove the glory of God?  
Where is their Faith, where is their prayer, where is their commitment  
and sacrifice to being good Christians and raising good families? What  
do dinosaurs' bones have to with teenage alcoholism and pregnancy,  
anyway?

Stefano

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