[Osx-nutters] The separation of church and state.

[Charles Bennett]

On Dec 6, 2007, at 5:47 PM, Milo Velimirovic wrote:

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> On Dec 6, 2007, at 4:33 PM, osx-nutters-request at tit-wank.com wrote:
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>> From: Charles Bennett <bennettc at ohio.edu>
>> Date: December 6, 2007 2:09:34 PM CST
>> To: Oi! Nutter! <osx-nutters at tit-wank.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Osx-nutters] The separation of church and state.
>> Reply-To: Oi! Nutter! <osx-nutters at tit-wank.com>
>>
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>> On Dec 6, 2007, at 1:13 PM, David Cake wrote:
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>>> At 9:54 AM -0700 6/12/07, Chris Gehlker wrote:
>>>> Anyway, I just got a call from one of the first archaeologists to
>>>> actually specify what evidence would tend to confirm or deny  
>>>> certain
>>>> hypotheses before he would let his students turn trowel on a dig
>>>> saying that he  couldn't come to the Archaeological Society's
>>>> Christmas Party because of a conflict with a function at his  
>>>> church.
>>>> So now I have two contemporary examples of scientists that are at
>>>> least somewhat religious.
>>>
>>> 	Though that guarantees nothing about his beliefs - maybe his
>>> church functions are more fun than the Archaeological Society's
>>> Christmas Party. Quite possible if you choose your religion with
>>> sufficient care.
>>> 	Cheers
>>> 		David
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>> I've gone to a couple of Unitarian services.
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> I feel compelled to comment as a 4th generation Unitarian- 
> Universalist (the denominations merged almost 50 years ago.)
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>>
>> Imagine a Christmas service titled "When Santa was a shaman" and  
>> being run by the Wiccan's  (They've been 'management' for a couple  
>> of years now)
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> Must be the management of the congregation you visited. Our  
> management is a diverse lot - humanists and a few uncategorizable  
> new age, feel-good types.


I think it's because their wiccans...  Everytime we go to vote them  
out we just sort of lose the will ;-)


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>> Some sort of norse mythos with reindeer carrying the sun in it's  
>> antlers to herald the winter solstice or something..
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>> Perhaps Sami  <http://www.tjatsi.fo/?side=491b24523f05ea96689d93e856f99618 
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>> I guess talking about this will completely screw my chances of  
>> being President..
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>> I mean..   If a Mormon isn't a Christian  (according to the  
>> evangelicals..)  then someone attending a ceremony run by the  
>> wiccans and calling Santa a shaman, is a *bad man*  likely believes  
>> in Satan and drinks blood.
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> UU's would have a discussion on the topic but actually commit to  
> believing in something?

Oh no.   They didn't commit to anything.   It was just the Christmas  
program.  The incense was cool.

It ended up being kind of a guided meditation that worked it's way  
into mentioning the Moon Goddess. (of course)

Not quite for sure because the meditation part worked so well I fell  
asleep.

As an atheist, I'm actually cool with earth/moon centered religions.    
To my way of thinking there are only 4 natural holidays, two solstice  
and two equinox, so why not celebrate the change of the seasons with  
them?  Better than sitting around being a bitter atheist..

> Besides which, drinking blood would be considered much too close to  
> an actual celebration of the Eucharist.

No Jewish Zombie pseudo blood for them then.

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> The problem with UUs is separating those who are basically secular  
> humanists and enjoy a lively intellectual exploration of other  
> belief systems from those who would pick and choose from the world's  
> theological cafeteria to try to recreate other cultures religious  
> experiences.
>
>  -

I heard it described that if the UU had a symbol it would be the  
question mark..

=c=
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