[Osx-nutters] The separation of church and state.

[David Cake]

At 11:30 PM +0000 11/12/07, Stefano Mori wrote:
>Yes, that's what I'm agreeing with. That's what I mean, in Wilber's 
>map, intentionality is in a separate domain to physical systems. 
>(This comes up in another debate in New Age Buddhist circles, where 
>they believe that if you get cancer it's because of your own bad 
>karmic thoughts.)
>

	Which, by the way, is crap. There are stats on mental state 
vs cancer etc. In particular, a positive attitude doesn't effect your 
chances of survival.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22632110-5013404,00.html
	It might make the process of living or dieing a bit more 
pleasant, but it won't change the outcome.
	I have otherwise calm and reasonable cancer survivor/partner 
of cancer survivor friends who get outbursts of rage on this issue - 
the last thing you need if you have cancer is some new age wingnut 
telling you that you need to think happy thoughts, and that your 
cancer is essentially your fault for not being a new age wingnut like 
them.
	Cheers
		David